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Smiling Bob 09-30-2008 11:50 AM

Moochers already knocking on your door?
 
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=303899

:bath:

ajrocks 09-30-2008 12:00 PM

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Interesting, thanks for the link and info!

Keef 09-30-2008 12:00 PM

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Yes, already have distant relatives saying they are going to pile in on my crib if TSHTF. My thanks for pleading with them to prep.

Me, just ordered another shipment of these ($50/50 rounds) in case the beans run out:

http://ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/p...tidefense-buck

RR_58 09-30-2008 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Keef (Post 1322922)
Yes, already have distant relatives saying they are going to pile in on my crib if TSHTF. My thanks for pleading with them to prep.

Me, just ordered another shipment of these ($50/50 rounds) in case the beans run out:

http://ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/p...tidefense-buck

Keef,I have thought about getting some of those...How good are they compared to buck shot or slugs?

Keef 09-30-2008 12:43 PM

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Don't have first hand knowledge, many good reports on the web if you want to research it. From what I read they hold a tight pattern and require a certain degree of marksmanship to be effective.

Mone 09-30-2008 11:31 PM

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Moochers?

Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore,
While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
`'Tis some visitor,' I muttered, `tapping at my chamber door -
Only this, and nothing more.'

Ah, distinctly I remember it was in the bleak December,
And each separate dying ember wrought its ghost upon the floor.
Eagerly I wished the morrow; - vainly I had sought to borrow
From my books surcease of sorrow - sorrow for the lost Lenore -
For the rare and radiant maiden whom the angels named Lenore -
Nameless here for evermore.

And the silken sad uncertain rustling of each purple curtain
Thrilled me - filled me with fantastic terrors never felt before;
So that now, to still the beating of my heart, I stood repeating
`'Tis some visitor entreating entrance at my chamber door -
Some late visitor entreating entrance at my chamber door; -
This it is, and nothing more,'

Presently my soul grew stronger; hesitating then no longer,
`Sir,' said I, `or Madam, truly your forgiveness I implore;
But the fact is I was napping, and so gently you came rapping,
And so faintly you came tapping, tapping at my chamber door,
That I scarce was sure I heard you' - here I opened wide the door; -
Quoth Moneholio, 'F*ck off, eh!'


mtnman 10-01-2008 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Keef (Post 1322922)
Yes, already have distant relatives saying they are going to pile in on my crib if TSHTF. My thanks for pleading with them to prep.

Me, just ordered another shipment of these ($50/50 rounds) in case the beans run out:

http://ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/p...tidefense-buck

Buck and ball loads, fighting tyranny since 1775.....

"Perhaps the most famous proponent of the buck and ball loading was George Washington, who encouraged his troops to load their muskets with buck and ball loads during the American Revolution."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_and_ball

budfox 10-01-2008 12:23 AM

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"I'm goin down in a flame of glory"

BTW I mean that literlly. I wish all the best to fellow Gimmers where ever we end up.

Waylon 10-01-2008 12:55 AM

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That was indeed a good read. How can you get folks to see what is happening with the country (educate and help them to understand what the government is doing and what they need to be doing about it) without giving away your own actions to prepare? I am afraid I have already said too much to too many trying to reach them.

CoinHunter53562 10-01-2008 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Waylon (Post 1324409)
That was indeed a good read. How can you get folks to see what is happening with the country (educate and help them to understand what the government is doing and what they need to be doing about it) without giving away your own actions to prepare? I am afraid I have already said too much to too many trying to reach them.

My thoughts too and a very valid question. You are trying to do the right thing and help others out but we are in the minority. So by doing what we are doing, or reaching out to others, we are putting targets on our backs. The best bet at this point is to tell people you sold off your PM's as the silver market went down, tell them you have cycled through your food preps and now only buy a few day's worth of groceries at a time. Make it seem like you changed your tune and even joke about it like you were being paranoid.

nub 10-01-2008 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Keef (Post 1322922)
Yes, already have distant relatives saying they are going to pile in on my crib if TSHTF. My thanks for pleading with them to prep.

Me, just ordered another shipment of these ($50/50 rounds) in case the beans run out:

http://ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/p...tidefense-buck


From another thread when you were looking for a source I went and picked up a couple hundred rounds of the centurion and hundred rounds of 00 buck shot......should be a hoot in the Mossberg 930 spx Highwayman turned me on to.
Thanks Keef

thorgrim 10-01-2008 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Waylon (Post 1324409)
That was indeed a good read. How can you get folks to see what is happening with the country (educate and help them to understand what the government is doing and what they need to be doing about it) without giving away your own actions to prepare? I am afraid I have already said too much to too many trying to reach them.

Yeah I have often thought about this. What really gets me is the guys on the weekly prep threads. They are giving anyone who wants to know an exact inventory of what they have. Idiots.

Oh and Bud, flames of glory don't sound all that bad to me.:wink:

Cassandra 10-01-2008 01:20 AM

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Holy cr@p! My hair is on fire after reading that forum. Certainly I'm living in a more privileged area and I know it, but I am very surprised that people are that freaked out & desperate already.

I may register over there to offer the following: If somebody unwelcome sees your preps and remarks in wonder about how you can afford to buy so much food, you need to tell them that because you are so poor you have to shop in bulk, and you don't "get to" buy pre-made and packaged food. Focus on how economical it is to shop in bulk, and make them feel like the extravagant ones if they claim they can't cook. "Oooh! I haven't had Keeblers in ages! I get sick of my own baking sometimes, but I have to use the flour until it runs out". Something along those lines. Smiling Bob or others who are registered at that site, please feel free to carry this message there if you think it would add value. I'm reluctant to join another site, as I would probably obsess about it at first and this site is quite enough of a time sink for me now.

Besides, I will be very busy topping up my preps and then hiding them!

Cassandra 10-01-2008 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CoinHunter53562 (Post 1324430)
My thoughts too and a very valid question. You are trying to do the right thing and help others out but we are in the minority. So by doing what we are doing, or reaching out to others, we are putting targets on our backs. The best bet at this point is to tell people you sold off your PM's as the silver market went down, tell them you have cycled through your food preps and now only buy a few day's worth of groceries at a time. Make it seem like you changed your tune and even joke about it like you were being paranoid.

I'm also planning something along those lines. But I don't think that the "I changed my mind & was just being paranoid & silly" reason for selling them would fly. People aren't that dumb, and most are waking up to the economic news of the day, so I doubt this would be believed. Better to say, "I got into a financial jam and had to sell to pay some bills" or something like that.

Best not to have to try to "unring the bell" here, though. If you haven't already blabbed about your preps or most especially your stash, DON'T!

cigarlover 10-01-2008 01:43 AM

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There was a knock on my door tonight.. Thankfully it was only a pizza delivery.. :s9:

As I looked around the house today I did realize I am low on everything but have been using everything up in anticipation of my coming move. I tend to look at what I have and figure out ho long I would live.Right now I have about 2 weeks supplies on hand. I'm also fat enough I could survive a couple months with nothing.. That pizza really packs on the pounds!!!

Mone 10-01-2008 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by thorgrim (Post 1324444)
Yeah I have often thought about this. What really gets me is the guys on the weekly prep threads. They are giving anyone who wants to know an exact inventory of what they have. Idiots.

Oh and Bud, flames of glory don't sound all that bad to me.:wink:

Only an idiot if you can figure out the small details such as who I am and where I live...

Oh, and Alberta is larger than California.

Wanna see my preps? LOL.

Keef 10-01-2008 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by nub (Post 1324435)
From another thread when you were looking for a source I went and picked up a couple hundred rounds of the centurion and hundred rounds of 00 buck shot......should be a hoot in the Mossberg 930 spx Highwayman turned me on to.
Thanks Keef

Make sure the neighbors know ur prepping with buck shot and that ur mentally instable and parinoid. That might temper their mooching habits. I read a report on that centurion, shooter said it should stop about any living thing in your path. Maybe not an elephant. If ur down on ur luck neighbor charges the house with that, just let him in.

Mone 10-01-2008 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Keef (Post 1324782)
Make sure the neighbors know ur prepping with buck shot and that ur mentally unstable and paranoid. That might temper their mooching habits. I read a report on that centurion, shooter said it should stop about any living thing in your path. Maybe not an elephant, If ur down ur luck neighbor charges the house with that, just let him in.


Good idea, I'm not sure if they know about the buckshot... :D


Squirrel Bait 10-01-2008 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Keef (Post 1322922)
Yes, already have distant relatives saying they are going to pile in on my crib if TSHTF. My thanks for pleading with them to prep.

Me, just ordered another shipment of these ($50/50 rounds) in case the beans run out:

http://ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/p...tidefense-buck

Anybody know how to reload these things. What kind of wad? What is the stacking order?

sb

the toxic avenger 10-01-2008 09:51 AM

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As I was carrying in some groceries from the car a couple of weeks ago it dawned on me that I have been routinely coming home with a good size load of groceries 2-3 times per week for quite some time now. I started wondering if my neighbors had paid any attention to this behavior. I rarely notice the neighbors carrying groceries into their homes, of course I haven't really been paying attention to them either.

CoinHunter53562 10-01-2008 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mone (Post 1324723)
Only an idiot if you can figure out the small details such as who I am and where I live...

Oh, and Alberta is larger than California.

Wanna see my preps? LOL.

Sadly it's possible for hackers and such. Hopefully we dont have any here!

Twisted Avatar 10-01-2008 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Waylon (Post 1324409)
That was indeed a good read. How can you get folks to see what is happening with the country (educate and help them to understand what the government is doing and what they need to be doing about it) without giving away your own actions to prepare? I am afraid I have already said too much to too many trying to reach them.


It is a dubble edge sword now isnt it???

You want to be helpful and tell people to prepare.........but if they reject your help (which about 95% will do) You have in theroy to a certain degree JUST COMPROMISED YOURSELF.

My hope is that when the collapse comes...... Those that balked at what I had to say get snuffed out quick so I can play dumb with every one else.

Terrible but true.

T

Olmstein 10-01-2008 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Smiling Bob (Post 1322897)

Wow. That forum has the paranoia cranked up to eleven.

Abouthadit 10-01-2008 11:11 AM

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good point about the cupboards needing to appear bare.

Keef 10-01-2008 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by J in AZ (Post 1324941)
Thanks for the link. They also have the Federal LE buckshot for very reasonable prices. I have been waiting for ammoman.com to get the LE buckshot back in stock but these guys beat his prices.

http://ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/i...gauge-buckshot

Those guys are good. They answer emails right away, shipping is fast, prices are good, good selection and no hassle with regulations.

Not trying to make a sale here, but you know what lousy service you get most everywhere these days. I just had a guy at Gilbert's Guns tell me it was fine to shot sabot slugs through a smooth barrel because that was all they had in stock.

Maybe it is, but the box says "rifled barrel only!". I got some low recoil buckshoot and walked out. The placed was packed, the owner said they can't keep anything in stock because of the election (customers worried about democrats/gun control)

Lt Dan 10-01-2008 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Smiling Bob (Post 1322897)

Interesting link. Thanks, although I'll not be joining another forum, it was a good read.

Thou must never assume!

My Dad died when I was 10. This left Mom with 6 of 7 children still at home. There was an inheritance, so we were not left with nothing. There was also S/S, but very little. I learned very young about people mooching. Some thought we were rich, but the inheritance didn't last long, between my Mom being somewhat gullible and it just plain didn't last long with having to relocate and all. I also learned young about survival and many of the skills needed to do so. One thing I learned, was don't even trust family, Especially not family!

Thanks Keef, for the link to the ammo to go site. I bookmarked it for possible a closer look.

gasilat 10-01-2008 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Smiling Bob (Post 1322897)

"Turns out their phone, cable and internet is out. Those won't be restored until payday rolls around."

sounds like the mooching family needs someone to tell them straight up that they can't afford a telephone, internet, cable or smoking...

eyeofliberty 10-01-2008 01:45 PM

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"I pity the fool that comes mooching at my door!" ~ Mr. T

Portmanteau 10-01-2008 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by the toxic avenger (Post 1324860)
As I was carrying in some groceries from the car a couple of weeks ago it dawned on me that I have been routinely coming home with a good size load of groceries 2-3 times per week for quite some time now. I started wondering if my neighbors had paid any attention to this behavior. I rarely notice the neighbors carrying groceries into their homes, of course I haven't really been paying attention to them either.

I pull the van into the garage and shut the door to unload any "unusual" purchases. :D

Worldmariner 10-01-2008 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Waylon (Post 1324409)
That was indeed a good read. How can you get folks to see what is happening with the country (educate and help them to understand what the government is doing and what they need to be doing about it) without giving away your own actions to prepare? I am afraid I have already said too much to too many trying to reach them.

For the last year I stopped the preaching, urging, cajojing, begging, etcetera. Now I just out the occassional article on how the world is going down the toilet. Sometimes I email links to interesting posts here at GIM, in hopes that my sad little freinds will maybe read a few other of the posts here. *sigh*


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